Sometimes we encounter a story in the city that is so profound it’s actually difficult to write about.  As the years go by the issues become more complex and tangled as people pass on, bylaws change and society continues to evolve.  Today’s story is one such story.  Today’s story features a city landmark that almost everyone who has lived here for more than 20 years is aware of but many have long forgotten about as it now sits in a state of decay.  Please join us as we look at Ian’s Coffee Shop and Turner’s News, two connected businesses that were here in our city since 1937.  The future for them is highly uncertain.

Ian's Coffee Shop / Turner's News - Victoria, BC, Canada

Ian’s Coffee Shop / Turner’s News – Victoria, BC, Canada

This story is a sister story to one we previously posted.  “Higgledy-Piggledy House” is a post that features a house just behind this establishment that is in very poor condition.  The house and this facility featured here today are owned by the same family as far as our research shows.  We understand through communication and feedback with some local folks that there is an ongoing dispute between the family and the city in regards to what to do with these buildings.

And what a shame that is.  As everyone takes their individual positions on the subject, these buildings continue to deteriorate and decay.  We’ve said it before; time waits for no one, not even city council.

Ian's Coffee Shop / Turner's News - Victoria, BC, Canada

Ian’s Coffee Shop / Turner’s News – Victoria, BC, Canada

Why would an old coffee shop and confectionery store matter, you ask?  At first glance, this building doesn’t appear to have much in terms of architectural appeal to it.  It’s just a square building with very few details.  That is, until you start to uncover the hidden story behind it, and start to really take a close look at some of the details.

Ian Turner was a much larger-than-life character in our city.  In the 1920′s and 1930′s the Richmond area was fast becoming one of the city’s key municipalities that featured lovely homes, the city’s main hospital and many other amenities.  As far as we can tell the Turner family set up the coffee shop and store at that time to service a growing community that was very active in the immediate area around the Royal Jubilee Hospital.  And from there Ian Turner became a key figure in our city with almost everyone having met him at some point.  All who met him enjoyed his outgoing and gregarious nature.  He was a friendly and warm man who worked hard over the years with a focus more on the community than becoming rich and famous.

As a result of this, to this day many of us remember him fondly.

Ian's Coffee Shop / Turner's News - Victoria, BC, Canada

Ian’s Coffee Shop / Turner’s News – Victoria, BC, Canada

If you were visiting a family member across the road at the hospital, you’d come here for a break, a meal and a friendly smile.  If you lived nearby, you’d come here every morning for the renowned home-made breakfasts Ian made.  I personally have put away more than one of Ian’s burgers, and even as I sit here sharing this story with everyone I recall them.

If you look past the wear, decay and graffiti in this picture, subtle details begin to really emerge.  The tiles that trim the lower portion of the building facade here truly appear to be authentic tiles from the 30′s, 40′s or 50′s.  And that’s just the very first layer of nostalgia that we peel away for a closer look.

Ian's Coffee Shop / Turner's News - Victoria, BC, Canada

Ian’s Coffee Shop / Turner’s News – Victoria, BC, Canada

As I was researching for background information to use in this story, it became readily apparent that for some reason all online records of the store and Ian Turner are slowly disappearing.  Very little official information can be found online, just a few anecdotal stories and personal experiences of those who Ian’s presence touched remain.  I don’t know if this is because of lack of interest, or if someone is removing the information to lower the conspicuity of the building and its current state right in the heart of our city.

Ian's Coffee Shop / Turner's News - Victoria, BC, Canada

Ian’s Coffee Shop / Turner’s News – Victoria, BC, Canada

As we came across this sign I found myself becoming sentimental.  Is this all that remains of the legacy of a man who tirelessly provided food, comfort and a kind word to the citizens of our city?  Many people who came here came because of a loved one being tended to across the street at the hospital.  No matter what the circumstances were, no matter how little hope was left for some, Ian always shared a smile and a kind word.

Ian's Coffee Shop / Turner's News - Victoria, BC, Canada

Ian’s Coffee Shop / Turner’s News – Victoria, BC, Canada

This picture tells a story of decades rolling past.  The Interac sign posted on the door speaks to modern conveniences, yet the Business Hours sign is a true throwback to the 70′s and 80′s.  If you look past the rust and grime that has accumulated on it, you begin to see the authentic curtains that still adorn the windows, albeit in a deteriorating state.  These curtains simply have to be from decades now long past as I remember similar ones in my house growing up in the 60′s.

Ian's Coffee Shop / Turner's News - Victoria, BC, Canada

Ian’s Coffee Shop / Turner’s News – Victoria, BC, Canada

This is one of my favorite pictures from the shoot.  This is clearly an art-deco design and all the subtle weathering and wear has really added a lot of character.  The only possible way this scene could be any better is if the sign was completely refurbished as it sits lit above the door welcoming customers to a thriving store.  Sadly, all that was heard as we stood in this spot was silence, save for the odd car that passed by as the occupants went about their busy lives without any understanding of the significance of the building they just passed.

Ian's Coffee Shop / Turner's News - Victoria, BC, Canada

Ian’s Coffee Shop / Turner’s News – Victoria, BC, Canada

Around back there was even a pickup window, a reminder of times when things were simpler.  Of times when drive-in restaurants and theaters were cornerstones of the communities we lived in.

We really have no clue as to what is going to become of Ian’s Diner and Turner’s News.  The building has been left in this state for about 10 years now.  The only information I was able to find about how it got here was that in the early 2000′s Ian had some form of an accident or injury at work and that’s when the doors were closed for the last time.

There are still some of us who recall the Coffee Shop and Ian Turner as is evidenced by a Facebook Fan Page for the building.  Posts are few and far between, and the last update goes back over a year.  The real gem here, though, is if you visit the photos section of the page.  There you will find a handful of absolutely incredible photographs that take us all back to the times when this was a busy place, a destination for everyone.  Even though the memories are becoming harder to find, there are still many of us that wax nostalgic when we stop and think about what this place, and what Ian himself, have meant to us and the community over the years.

Thank you for taking the time to visit and share this story with us here today, we really do appreciate it.  As always, we love to hear from all our visitors so we encourage you to leave us any comments that you may have.



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  1. Wow, does this post bring back memories! I’ve known that coffee shop forever, but never knew the story behind it. Thanks so much for researching and sharing it, Toad, and for the beautiful photos.

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      Thank you so much for taking the time to pop by and see us here, Laurie, we sure do appreciate it! It really is a landmark here in the city, isn’t it. It seems that almost everyone we know has some form of a connection. We really appreciate your kindness and support!!

  2. avatar Jimi Jones says:

    Times and locations change, but these stories bear great similarities. In my birthplace of Baltimore Maryland, we have seen this exact scenario play out on more levels than can be counted. Many historic places that should have been preserved fell to neglect and eventually, the wrecking ball.

    The photos and the story you tell here is amazing, Toad. I can feel a connection with this old place, although I have never been there.

    Excellent photos as always. it’s a great service to document what may well be the curtain-call of a bygone era in this community.

    Well done my friend, well done!

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      *bows* Thanks so much, Jimi, your gracious and kind comments here mean so much to us! We are absolutely compelled to do this sort of work, if not for us photogs out there documenting these things, they could be lost forever. That’s just absolutely heartbreaking to us, so we get out there as much as we can to try and do something!! Thanks so much for your great background story and for taking the time to visit my friend!

  3. avatar Heather says:

    This breaks my heart. I would love to see this place alive again….beautiful work Toad….

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      Thank you so, so much Heather! You are not alone in your sentiments, my dear friend. Many thanks for your visit today, we sure do appreciate it.

  4. avatar Jim Nix says:

    I just love that you care so deeply about things near to you that you take the time to research, write, photograph, and share it with us all – nicely done my friend

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      We’re totally, totally honored by your thoughts here today, Jim, especially considering they come from you! Thanks so much, my friend, that means an awful lot.

  5. avatar ehpem says:

    Toads – you have clearly gone the extra mile on this one – the photos seem to have extra touches to make them even better than usual, and the story is so well told. I pass this place several times a week and have all the same responses as you to this spot, including the urge to photograph it (though I have not yet done so, and now I don’t need to). Great story and pictures.

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      Thank you so much, my good friend! That means a ton to us coming from you. It seems that this island of ours has captured our hearts and our minds and we are absolutely compelled to try and do something to preserve some of these things for future generations, even if it is just in a photograph. I cannot tell you how much we appreciate you taking the time to pop by and leave us these great comments, Ehpem, thank you!!!

  6. avatar Len Saltiel says:

    Your passion about the demise of these forgotten places really comes though your great images and post Toad. The best images always tell stories as yours always do.

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      We recognize this as a huge compliment, thank you so much Len! Your visit and comments here today mean the world to us!

  7. avatar Chris Nitz says:

    Man, this sounds like it would have rocked to try before closing down. I like the sign that says how long they have been in business. Kind of ironic to have that in the window of a business no longer open :(

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      Exactly! I really found that particular shot was a bit heartbreaking for some reason. Really great comments here, Chris, thanks for taking the time to visit and leave us your thoughts my friend!

  8. avatar Edith Levy says:

    It is sad to see places that you loved change and become only a memory. Very poignant post Toad and excellent images. Your favorite is my favorite as well. I just love the Turner’s Sign image.

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      We thank you so much, from the bottom of our hearts Edith! Your visits are always a highlight of our day as we just love to interact with you and see your thoughts like this. Just wonderful.

  9. avatar Rose Richard says:

    Sad to hear of the decay. You captured it so well. Wouldn’t it be great if it could be revived into a thriving arts district?….

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      There’s a good idea!! Truly!! Thanks so much, Rose, we are so delighted to see you come by regularly since we’ve met here online. I can’t begin to tell you how much we appreciate it!

  10. How incredibly sad. You did a wonderful job of capturing what is still there.

  11. avatar LensScaper says:

    A sad tale, eloquently told. In the UK, councils can compel owners to make repairs to buildings that are being left to rot ‘or else’. It’s an unfortunate feature of modern life that ‘nostalgia’ doesn’t figure in many folks lives – we live in a disposable society. More’s the pity. It’s encouraging to hear that some people do still care. We can only hope that with people like you raising the profile of buildings like these, something will eventually happen.

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      Terrific thoughts here, Andy, I sure do appreciate you taking the time to pop by and leave these for us and everyone else to enjoy. I totally agree with your thoughts there. I believe we do have some bylaws that are related to the ones you discuss, I am just not entirely sure the details of them or how they might apply to a situation like this. It seems to us to be a bit of a stand-off at the moment, but the truth of the matter is this place has been like this for quite some time now. We can only hope that something comes of all this…

      Many thanks for all your encouragement and support here, Andy, you are both a true scholar and a gentleman my friend.

      • avatar ehpem says:

        Hi Toad and Andy – the problem around here is that the legislation provides for compensation to the owner if a building is Designated (and is not already automatically protected for some reason, which very very few are). Thus, if council were to Designate this as a heritage site without the owner’s permission, they could be hit with a big bill. This happened recently with the Roger’s Chocolate building which had it’s interior designated in an attempt to prevent it being changed during a reno. It cost the City Council something like $400,000 after a court case (who knows what the lawyers cost). So, the root of the problem is dysfunctional legislation that allows important bits of heritage to be destroyed.

        • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

          There’s definitely some circular logic at play here. I had heard that there was a kerfuffle with the heritage designation at Roger’s there, didn’t know it was this deep an issue. We really need to change these laws, you (Ehpem) have taught us some things recently about these laws that frankly don’t make a lot of common sense.

  12. Love those old retro buildings…. it would be nice if someone was willing to invest in their future!!

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      I totally, totally agree with you Derrick! Thanks so kindly for taking the time to pop by and see us here, we sure do appreciate it!

  13. I really enjoyed this set of photos, loads of character in that old building. My favorite is the isolation shot of the Turner sign, terrific work!

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      Thank you, Michael, that’s awfully kind! I agree with you about the Turner sign, that one was my favorite, too. As a matter of fact, the second I hit the shutter on that one, I knew what we were going for. Thanks a ton for popping by today, and for leaving us your incredible comments, kind sir!

  14. avatar Renee Besta says:

    Toad, this story is nearly heartbreaking, but very important to tell. It is one of the reasons I love urbex photography. History is vitally important in this day and age when communities seem so fractured. The connections we had growing up can sometimes feel lost to the younger generations that haven’t a clue of what life was like in the past.

    Your photography is wonderful and demonstrates the importance of carrying these special stories forward and bringing them to light. I love the image of the vintage neon sign. It makes me want to go inside and have a cup of coffee and chat with wonderful friends. Thank you for the great work you provide on historical preservation, and the importance of community.

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      Your kind words here mean so very much to us, Renee, thank you for taking the time! Your ongoing friendship, support and encouragement of the work we do is the fuel that drives us forward, my dear friend. We certainly owe you a huge debt of gratitude!

  15. I really love that neon sign shot! It is really sad to say we live in a society where there is so much division between those who want to restore nostalgic places like this and those who don’t care about them one way or another. This makes what you do as a photographer that much more important. You bring attention to circumstances that seem to be overlooked. Hopefully with your documentation of these buildings something can be done. Thanks for sharing this wonderfully written article and images Toad!

  16. avatar Linda Woodbury says:

    My son is interested in this building as he lives near here. I remember having pie and coffee here in the late 70′s with my husband while waiting for our laundry at the laundromat across Fort St. (now the Moka House). I enjoyed it then and I love the old art deco architecture. I appreciate your interest and photos, and wish more people and the government in Victoria were interested in keeping up the heritage buildings in our city and preserving the stories of these places too. It makes sense as our industry is tourism. There should be more legislation to protect the character and heritage here.

    Well done!

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      That is just so kind of you to say, Linda, thanks for taking the time to visit us here today, and for leaving these wonderful, wonderful comments. It brings us a lot of personal satisfaction to be involved in projects like this and when we get feedback from folks like you it makes it all worthwhile. We sincerely appreciate your visit, and hope to see you again here at The Hollow!! :)

  17. avatar Colin Bailey says:

    Greetings from the Facebook group! I’ve also posted a few mini-musings about the “Ian Turner Building” on a couple of Flickr pages and I, too, noted that online references to the building and businesses seem to be disappearing, so it’s good to know that we’re on the same page, as it were.

    I just thought I’d share that although I live up-island now, I do get down to Victoria occasionally, most recently last week. I was driving past Ian’s and I had to stop at the Richmond/Fort intersection. An older gentleman, probably late 60′s, had stopped before crossing Birch from the medical building. He suddenly whipped out his phone and started taking pictures of the Turner’s sign.

    I think the businesses in this building have touched an awful lot of people and I wish the web were more of a unifying force to get them to pull together. I somehow think a critical mass of admirers would influence the building’s fate.

    • avatar ehpem says:

      I fear the worse – driving by the other day I noticed wisps of a worn out blue tarp poking above the front of the building, right above the neon sign. I expect that the roof is leaking pretty badly now, which is probably the kiss of death for this building.

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      Hi Colin, welcome to The Hollow!! We really appreciate your visit here, and your comments. It always means so much to us when we’re able to connect like this with like-minded folks from the island here. I am quite sure this is a city landmark and as such I personally believe it should be saved. Not sure if there’s any local appetite to spend the energy or money on it, though, and that’s a real shame. Thanks for popping on by, we sure do hope to see you again!

  18. avatar Colin Bailey says:

    Didn’t see the tarp when I drove by a couple of weeks ago, but then again I was headed south down Richmond. That’s sad news indeed.

    By the way, I forgot to point out what I think is the highlight of the various decals on the entrance door. Did you notice that, in contrast to the “no smoking” sign on the bottom of the door, that the decal that has the building number on it is actually an ad for Buckingham cigarettes?

    • avatar ToadHollowPhoto says:

      Oh wow, I didn’t notice that, that’s what I call the pure definition of irony. Times sure have changed in a very short period of time, in my humble opinion.